Update (3/11/08): After posting this I realized that perhaps a much more serious example of "torture porn" is the hit TV show 24. Everyone tsks, tsks the horror genre, yet, they sit down to watch the cop culture entertainments of 24, Law and Order, and CSI, which all provide safely "exhilirating" and order-bringing "fear-inducing" versions of torture as porn (and I have barely touched the many examples that are on mainstream TV)--MB
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(I admit the only examples of these films I have seen is Saw and Wolf Creek, after that I decided I didn't want to assault my senses any more. I developed a knee-jerk reaction to the concept of the Hostel films without having seen them, dismissing them as mindless, sadistic Torture Porn. I'm not going to rush out and go get them, but Hilden has effectively given me something to think about and I will keep in mind my violation of the grievous sin of dismissing what I have not seen/read. Came across this courtesy of Broken Pencil)
Free Speech and the Concept of "Torture Porn": Why are Critics So Hostile to "Hostel II"?
By JULIE HILDEN
FindLaw's Writ
Free speech advocates have often zeroed in on the hypocrisy of the ratings system of the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA): Movies with less-than-explicit sex scenes often qualify for R and NC-17 ratings, whereas even very violent movies often do not. This criticism usually is paired with the hope that this hypocrisy will someday be resolved through a more reasonable approach to ratings for movies with sex scenes.
But recently, that hope for the movie industry has been turned on its head. It now seems that the analogy between movies that depict sex and violence, respectively, will be used not to convince the MPAA to ease up on the first, but rather to justify a crackdown on the latter. Thus, the comparison between sexuality and violence may actually serve as leverage in favor of harsher ratings, rather than against them.
That's a serious concern for those who believe in free speech. While the MPAA is of course an industry organization, and not a government body, its ratings can still have a profound effect (including a "chilling effect" for the future) upon the kind of movies that can be made and, if made, can reach broad audiences.
The phrase "torture porn," which has been repeatedly applied to the Writer/Director Eli Roth's recent movie "Hostel II," is telling in terms of the new movement to conflate sexuality and violence - and it's spreading virally. Entertainment Weekly used the term; and five of the featured reviews on the popular movie ratings site RottenTomatoes.com use variations on this theme. This summer, New York magazine's reviewer David Edelstein devoted an entire article to the concept.
While not quite new, the concept is recent - largely confined to Twenty-First Century films such as "Saw" and its sequels, and Roth's earlier films "Cabin Fever" and "Hostel." In addition, "Captivity," which premiered last Friday, June 13, has attracted the "torture porn" label - with its billboards becoming especially controversial. How long will it be before the MPAA follows the lead of movie reviewers in labeling films "torture porn"? (Meanwhile, in the context of television, Senator Sam Brownback may well succeed in convincing the FCC to move aggressively against depictions of violence, especially explicit ones - a move that has led to significant blowback from the ACLU.)
In this column, I'll argue that the "torture porn" label is damaging, unfair, and misguided. It attempts to trivialize certain movies by suggesting that their only purpose is to titillate - short-circuiting the brain to go straight to the pulse or groin. In fact, many of the visceral depictions of violence in these movies conveyed strong messages that no viewer could miss. Ironically, these messages, especially in the "Hostel" films, are typically anti-violence.
Because the real world includes violence, and because violence has such devastating effects, it would be anomalous if ideas about, and depictions of, violence didn't play a strong role in the lively "marketplace of ideas" the First Amendment protects. Aggressively protecting that marketplace of ideas, as the First Amendment commands us to do, entails protecting a wide swathe of types of expression, including those that some viewers will find overly explicit.
The Importance of Allowing Filmmakers to Rely on Context and Realism
Generally, scenes of violence are effectively interpreted by critics and the MPAA in isolation, unless the movie is truly a rare masterpiece. For example, the Oscar-nominated "Saving Private Ryan" came famously close to receiving an NC-17 for its violence, especially that of its opening, but ultimately did not, likely due to this informal masterpiece exception. In this one example, the MPAA was able to see the movie's violence in context, and in light of the perspective the movie conveyed. It was also able to see that it would have done a disservice to World War II veterans to convey a tamer portrait of what had actually happened on the battlefield.
These arguments regarding context and perspective, however, are applicable to virtually every movie; it's just that with respect to other films, the MPAA ignores them. It's nonsensical to look at scenes of violence out of context, given that viewers will only see them in context. And making violence look less realistic - less bloody, less gory, and more stylized - would be deceptive not only in masterpieces such as "Saving Private Ryan," but also in any film that purports to either locate itself in a real world, or to locate itself in a fictional world similar enough to our own that it can offer commentary on the world we live in.
The tacit masterpiece exception is also troubling in another way: It favors conventional films, and grossly discriminates against the kind of films that, while they may be interesting and popular, will never be nominated for an Academy Award. The masterpieces of Sundance may be allowed to be violent, but the masterpieces of its edgier spin-off, Slamdance, may not.
This is particularly troubling because it's not masterpieces, but edgier films, that are likely to have the most interesting and new points to make about violence.
The Cases of "Hostel" and "Hostel II": Anti-Violence Movies Wrongly Labeled "Torture Porn"
For example, it's hardly controversial to convey, as "Saving Private Ryan" did, that it's tragic when soldiers die in a just war. But it is very controversial indeed to say that even the most civilized-seeming people may be lawless sadists underneath, and that this sadism isn't aberrant; it's just an intensification and distortion of other elements in our culture.
Yet that's exactly the message of "Hostel" and "Hostel II" - a message seemingly lost on those who label the movies torture porn. Unfortunately, when these films receive that label, the movies' commentary about the violent extremes that seemingly-civilized people never reaches part of its potential audience, for would-be viewers may boycott the films based on this reductive and unfair label.
Both "Hostel" and "Hostel II' comment on the stereotype of naïve American innocence and jaded European experience. Critics highlight this kind of commentary when it appears in classic literature, but tend to ignore it when they discuss the kind of movies they tend to consider beneath them, and only condescend to review. To illustrate the contrast between brash America and weary Europe, both movies depict small groups of young Americans traveling abroad (men in "Hostel"; women in "Hostel II"). Both groups have an ugly surprise waiting for them: They will be tricked into being the victims of a club, based in Eastern Europe, at which otherwise unremarkable but extremely wealthy men and women torture and kill for sport. Even if the Americans escape, their illusions of safety and privilege will be permanently shattered.
To Read the Rest of the Essay
(This essay makes an excellent point about the level of acceptance of violence, real or implied, in mainstream "masterpiece" films as opposed to the more indie/low-budget grnre films. One could consider that Roth/Tarantino are trying to communicate a message about society... except, they turn it into a franchise? When you brand your message of violence and start spawning sequels, doesn't that problematize what you are trying to do... once again I admit I have not seen the Hostel films. If you have seen either of these films I would be very curious to hear what you have to say about them--Michael Benton)
7 comments:
I have seen all the Saw movies and both Hostel movies. I watch lots of different kinds of movies and that includes a lot of different types of 'horror'. The horror of today is way different than the horror of past, and the term 'torture porn' is not one that I have heard before but I do believe it can apply to a lot of what we see popping up.
Saw movies - an interesting premise of how far would you hurt yourself to save yourself. The movies are extremely graphic and tense, but they don't bother me per se. My husband can not watch any of the current violently graphic horror - 30 Days of Night is about as extreme he can go. For those of us who are into horror, I think the Saw films do not necessarily go to far - they have devilish contraptions and puzzles and the message isn't lost.
Hostel movies - I actually really enjoyed the first Hostel movie. The concept is not new, but the implementation is. I did not find the gore too extreme - about the same as Saw. But it fit into the story. The second Hostel movie has a few interesting twists to the first one, but I felt they did add gore in that one for the sake of titillation. The message of the story becomes more clear in the second movie as well imho.
Wolf Creek - Someone lent me their copy and I watched about the first 30 minutes and stopped watching. I was getting the distinct vibe of "Hills Have Eyes". I really did not like the Hills movie. I have not and will not watch the second movie. To me, that movie is pure violence for the sake of violence. I think the difference this kind of movie has vs Saw or Hostel is there is no msg. There's nothing to see into the human psyche really, it's purely violent offensive horror. In one scene, one of the deformed crazy people takes a lactating woman into his mouth before shooting her in the head. Sorry, but that's just too sick for me. I've probably hit the word limit heh.
Susannity,
Would you let your kids watch Saw or Hostel? Just curious... I saw the first Saw :) and figured I got the point and didn't need to see anymore (ingenious use of limited set/budget to make a film)
I actually watched Wolf Creek and the remake of The Hills Have Eyes on the same night (a friend of mine likes horror) and then we went camping in the Kentucky wilderness the next day and were literally freaked out all night everytime we heard a noise.
Thinking about this I think the TV show 24 (just from the ads I have seen) is actually more Torture Porn in that it removes the realism of the act and makes it sexy for popular consumption--who will Jack torture, ewww give it to em Jack, Jack's back and he is going to hurt somebody....
Peace :)
You made the right decision turning Wolf Creek off.... bad stuff, seriously wish I would not have seen it....
My munchkins are 7 & 8 right now so no way in hell! But when they're older, if they like that genre, yes. I don't know the specific age yet, it would depend on the child. So my kids have watched all the Star Wars and Harry Potters. Some parents of similarly aged children won't let their kids watch those kinds of movies yet. One couple's children has never watched even G movies yet, they only watch like Bob the Builder type shows. I turned on "Ant Bully" and they ran screaming in the first 3 minutes because the spraying of water on the ants terrified them. One day I was doing giving the spelling test in my son's 3rd grade class and I make up silly sentences for the words. Well the movie "Jurassic Park" came up. Some of the kids were commenting on how much they love that movie. A few had never seen the movie but wanted to. My 3rd grader wanted to watch it so we sat down together with it one day. I turned it off after 30 minutes because he seemed very tense and I thought it was too much for him.
Lol, I can't imagine camping the day after watching Hills. That could have been so much fun for some pranking haha. Good thing I don't live in Kentucky. ;^P
I'm getting email updates from your site that a reply was posted, but for some reason, only your msgs don't come through and it says 'failed delivery' etc. It just says it's from you. Weird.
Maybe because I "updated" the post (see at the top)?
not sure - you're not on any filters or anything either. ;^P I just filter Allan over at camelsbackandforth. - JK! See if he responds lol.
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